Hmmm...running plans. A) Get healthy. B) Have fun. C) Run some sweet trails.
I haven't run a meaningful step this entire month. I guess I did a 12 minute run a couple days ago and ended up walking back. I quit running the first of the month because of two apparent neuromas in my left foot--one between the 1st and 2nd toes and one between the 2nd and 3rd toes (I think).
For the first week or so of not running, my foot really really hurt, all the time. I avoided walking as much as I could because it hurt to walk. I was scared for awhile that it was broken. The weekend that I went down to crew Kyle at Hardrock my foot finally started feeling a bit better, but just the few steps of running around that I did while crewing made it hurt more.
The last couple weeks the foot is way better than it was when I first stopped running, i.e. walking is rarely much of an issue, but it certainly is not runnable. I can press everywhere on all of the metatarsals and there is no sort of touchy spot, so I'm fairly convinced it's not a stress fracture in addition to the neuromas. I know the neuromas are there because they often click under the ball of my foot when I walk. But, the ball of the foot isn't what hurts. It's more like an ache/sharp pain between my metatarsals. When I step hard on a rock in the right place (right under the metatarsal head of my second toe) the pain is BAD all the way through my foot. But, it's not nearly as bad as it was, say, two or three weeks ago.
I've been going to a chiropractor here in Leadville that has been doing some metatarsal shearing/adjusting trying to loosen up my 2nd and 3rd metatarsals and has also been doing some ultrasound, but it doesn't seem to be helping much. I'm seriously considering trying to get a cortisone shot because I've heard some good things about them from people I trust.
In terms of my plans for running, the LT100 is clearly out. Even if I could start running tomorrow, I wouldn't do that race. Right now, I only have time goals at that race and running to an unfit 18 or 19hr finish doesn't interest me, even if it were a win.
For a while I was consciously shifting my (purely mental at this point) focus to the Angeles Crest 100 in September. However, as this injury wears on--and AC is currently only 7 weeks away--I've largely foregone that plan, too. I'm really really tired of trying to prepare for a quality 100 miler with only a month or so of training (this was the case for both of my hundreds--Rocky and Pbville--last year). That was a big reason I was so psyched for Western--my training leading up to it had been virtually hitch-free and very consistent for four months, including two promising tune-up 50 mile races.
So, right now, I'm focusing on just getting healthy in time to do some sweet adventure runs this fall. Things I'm pondering right now include running the entire Tonto trail in the Grand Canyon (~100 miles), the White Rim Trail in Canyonlands (really more of a road, but still an incredible 100 mile loop), something sweet in the San Juans (Grenadier Range?), or maybe even a single push on the Tahoe Rim Trail...
Of course, all of this is once again also making me ponder my training approach. The bottom line is that when I eliminate everything else in my life, I run too much. When I was working at the Colorado Running Company this winter/spring I was limiting my mileage (relatively speaking) and incorporating some solid speedwork into my weekly schedule. Hanging out with Kyle and Scott in Arizona, things were often on the verge of getting out of hand but Kyle's mellow attitude would often reign me in (the same when we were living together in CO Springs). It was only after I dropped Jocelyn off in San Diego and I was doing nothing but sleeping in my truck and running for the last couple of weeks before WS that I let the mileage get out of hand.
So, right now, instead of just thinking about changing my running, I'm trying to do it in the larger context of making some overall changes in my lifestyle, i.e. establish some kind of permanent job this fall/winter/next spring before grad school in 2009 and/or embark on a 3ish month period of international living or travel. We shall see.
In the meantime, working at Provin' Grounds in Leadville is great. It's a big hang-out for runners, bikers, and locals and virtually everything is organic and fairtrade, including the in-house baked goods. And Leadville is a great town in the summer. I could probably not stand the winters at 10,000', but in the summer it's a perfect place with great locals, great mountains/trails, and is very living-out-of-the-Roost friendly.
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Sorry to hear about your foot woes. That is a total drag. I have seen Shirley and Mark Plaatjes in Boulder in the past for kickass massage and physical therapy. They are quite good.
I was looking forward to seeing you run Leadville this year. I am hoping to be up for pacing (ran it last year, dropped out after Tree Line on the way back) and did the 50-miler last weekend at Leadville.
Best of luck with your recovery.
~stubert.
Anton- hope your foot feels better. That kind of shit is frustrating. I think your new plans will really freshen things up in regard to your running and approach to running. Running without a purpose in the woods inevitably, is the best kind, I know my injury over the winter taught me that. You have many years of Ultras ahead, and in a sport of over indulgences, I have often caught myself putting the cart ahead of the ox. Deep training is good, but only healthy for a small window of time each year. Having other interests and pursuits will enrich and compliment life/running, etc..
recover well
Anton, thanks again for sharing your personal life and experiences. I know I was dissapointed at the cancellation of WS, as I was looking forward to following your pursuit. You are a young man, changes are going to be inevitable. Live life happy. All the rest is really just b.s. . Best of luck in your healing. Peace.
Tony-
Sorry to hear about the foot problems after such a solid year of competition you had going. Allow yourself some time to refresh as you have a lot of years of ultras still ahead. We've enjoyed seeing you run through the Garden or Red Rock, effortlessly floating across the trail - it has been an inspiration for us to run better. Good luck and recover well!
-steve
I once read that on every run a lesson is learned. It sounds like you have learned many lessons of late and are beginning to apply them. Your success will continue after this brief recovery and we, your fans, will be here when you return. Best wishes.
Tony
Sorry to hear of the foot woes. Is there a line you have mentally drawn with mileage (say in so called base weeks) where you think you could be "getting out of hand now?"
Also, I noticed you did a good amount of mileage in the FF. Any thoughts to if those help, hurt?
Thanks and hoping for a quick recovery.
Oh yeah, good case for Kyle at the Peak too.
Glad you checked in. Was thinking somebody should send the search and rescue out after you given your silence this month. Did my first 50 in Leadville this month. You were part of the inspiration.
None of my business, but how can you be excited about organic food and fair trade goods even be considering cortisone shots? Stay away from needles, sweet pea! There's no going back. Get your calves worked on some more first.
Thanks for the comments, all. GZ, "getting out of hand" for me is probably defined by 30+ hrs or 200 miles...neither are sustainable, or, even that worthwhile I'm beginning to think. Whenever I get healthy I'm going to try very hard to keep it more in the 170ish range. This will mean, I think, limiting my week-day totals to 3hrs and my weekend long runs to 4-5hrs (when not preparing for a 100). So, more like a 21-22hr week.
Back in March when I was preparing for AR I felt very very fit because I had lowered the overall mileage a bit and added one solid flat speed workout a week (usually Tue) with a more impromptu hill tempo on thursdays. Physically, I actually missed that extra gear going into WS...I think cranking 5min pace once a week (and taking subsequent relatively easier days to allow for that effort) did a lot for my confidence mentally and my fitness physically. In the future, I hope I'll keep the weekend long runs but lower the weekday mileage and institute more structured tue/thu hard days.
As for the FFs, I only blame them a little bit. It's hard not to, considering the nature of the injury I have (a neuroma), but mostly I think it was the irrationally increased mileage in the month of June. I was actually doing even more mileage in them earlier in the spring with no problems than what I was doing in May/June. In fact, I did a 3h30 run in them on typical Pikes Peak Granite gravel singletrack only 4 days before AR and they felt great the whole way.
Susannah--re: cortisone. What can I say? I'm desperate. I normally don't even take any sort of pills, but man, this time off is getting out of hand.
Tony
Got excited when I saw your blog lit up on my Reader. Glad to hear the update. Hope all goes well.
get well soon tony...and be careful with the cortisone. it's not always a silver bullet...i might suggest a good rolfer. they not only work the fascia, but also can manipulate the nerve pathways and hopefully provide some relief. take good care...justin
Best of luck with figuring out a new approach to running and everything else. I have had to do much of the same over the past year or so because of various changes in my life--it can be a frustrating process. In my case, it was the broken hand from falling on the CO trail that prompted a recalibration. I took it as a message from somewhere that it was time to step back and evaluate.
See you on the trials.
Jeff
Hey Anton,
On a much smaller scale, I can relate to exactly what you're going through. I've had plantar fasciitis in the left foot off and on since 2005, and I tried the FF for an entire 50 mile trail race after training with them for awhile and finding they alleviated the pull on the fascia. Well, racing that distance in 'em gave me some cool nerve pain in the meta's too, and it's only now subsiding after a few months of scaling way back, returning to "normal" shoes, etc. So, there's no real point to this post of mine except to say I hope your recovery goes well and that you find the balance you're seeking. We're all in the same boat on that one, just at different levels...
Sorry to hear about the neuromas - they are a huge drag from what I know of them. My wife has been dealing with neuromas in both feet for some time now - she has tried the cortisone shots and I hate to say it, they really didn't do the job.
Right now, she is in the middle of getting alcohol injections directly into the neuromas, and so far - she has had only two shots out of 4-6 scheduled - they seem to be making a big difference. This is the best her feet have felt in a long time, and they seem to be getting better with each shot.
The alcohol is supposed to kill the nerves in the neuroma, so no nerves is supposed to = no pain. She is also waiting on some custom orthotics which her podiatrist said should help as well, but at this point, the alcohol injections seem to be doing a pretty good job.
Whatever you end up doing, I hope you are able to get rid of them. Good luck.
Enjoy The White Rim Trail at ISKY..I was a ranger there and actually saw Ed Abbey one time as he was back visiting..I always recall reading "dead man at grandview point" and knowing where he found a body when he was a ranger at Arches...Take the time to find that balance between running..Tony
hey man, i received my leadville marathon medal from you a few weeks ago, and i have to admit -- having been a 'fan' of yours (and your blog) for a while now, that was the high point of my summer so far.
i'm sorry to hear about your injuries... but i imagine you'll do the smart thing and let it heal up so you can continue to kick ass in the years to come.
i've always wanted to live in leadville; it's got to be my favorite town in the usa. live it up for a while and hopefully i'll meet you at an ultra someday in the future.
Good to hear from you again Anton...sorry about the woes, down-time sucks for sure. Give a hug to Merilee for me; she put a bunch of ski bums up for a while when I was out there with her nephew...she also seems like someone who might posess some wise peace & balance counsel...just a thought.
Anton....
I also have suffered from neuromas in both feet for many years,mainly since the 80's when I wore a lot of Nike's which were too narrow in the forefoot for me.
My solution (and it works really well for me) is to be sure to have shoes that are narrow in the heel and wide in the forefoot, then take the bottom several loops of laces and either have no laces in them at all or leave them really loose and tie a knot before lacing up the rest of the shoe. This way when you tighten the shoe, the forefoot area stays nice and loose.
The reason for nueromas as I'm sure you know is that the metatarsals are being squeezed together,, ,aggravating the nerves in there. I guess barefooting should be the best remedy, which you do, but maybe then the compression is aggravating it.
There is always surgery to have the useless nerves removed ;-)
Best of luck with it and hope to see those great mileage logs again soon....
Steve P.
I'm sorry to hear about your injuries. But after reading this post, my first thought was: Wow! What a great life!!
I read your blog for inspiration. I guess you could call me a distant fan.
When searching for balance, maybe a healthy outlet would be some sport that doesn't involve as much physical impact...
I'd think endurance racing a singlespeed MTB would be up your alley.
Life is all about finding balance in your passions and obsessions. Best of luck and thanks for the honesty in sharing...you aren't the only one who struggles with it.
Hi Tony, I had a question, don't know the right way to reach you, but thought I'd try this ... While most of us signed up for the Western States this June were notified Weds night that it was off, someone has sent out an email saying elite runners (that's you!) were told about the cancelation Wednesday morning ... is there any truth to that? I don't want to point fingers without having the facts, and if this email that went out is untrue, it should be corrected, but if you all got a heads up in the a.m., it was really unfair to people who drove up there during the day and weren't told until that night. Thanks,
Sucks to be injured, and that sounds like a whopper. I'll add some thoughts on the Tonto as I have nothing to add on the medical front.
It would be a burly project. Not a ton of elevation gain, but the drainages would add up nonetheless. The real difficulty would be that significant parts of the trail are skinny and overgrown, such that they would be marginally runable at best. Water in the western part (between Hermit and Bass) would be problematic as well, at least necessitating a spring trip when the water table is up.
White Rim would be easy, you'd run it about as fast as some of the slower groups ride it in a day.
I look forward to reading about it!
I look forward to
Anton,
I know that everyone has something for you, so take or leave this advice...I live in Colorado Springs, and there is a doctor here who utilizes a technique called "biodynamics". My wife, who is a massage therapist, trades visits with him, and she is blown away at the results he is able to accomplish in a single session. He is one of a few in the whole world who knows what he is doing in this field, and before you start injecting, etc., it may be worth your while to check him out, especially if your in town for something. He does not claim that he can fix everything (like some doctors do), but he can affect most every condition positively. The unique/bizarre thing about this practice is that the fix is almost instantaneous (often 1 visit). I know it sounds spooky/too good to be true, but I have seen the results. I am not selling anything, and have no vested interest other than I like to see people get well.
Dave
P.S. I've met you at the top of the tempo runs up Cheyenne Canyon with the C.R.U.D. guys (very cold mornings!)
Steve--
thanks for the advice...but footwear has seemed to have (very) little bearing on making my foot feel any better (i've tried the extra loose shoes thing). Great job at Hardrock!
Joe--
I know...my life IS very great right now (minus the non-running thing); I love Leadville, AND I'm getting a lot of reading done.
Chase--
I know it was hard to not feel at least a tiny bit bitter after the WS debacle this year, BUT--if it makes you feel any better--if any "elite" runners were notified Wednesday MORNING vs. Wed evening, I certainly wasn't one of them. If I HAD been, it would've saved me over 24 hours of actual driving time and ~$250 in gas money...not small potatoes in my personal finances...
Dave--
Thanks for the beta re: the Tonto. I've done a fair bit of the Tonto trail--everything from Hermit's to Grandview--but that obviously leaves out the probably much lesser-used further reaches on either end. What parts do you know to be "overgrown"? I like skinny trails!
C.R.U.D Dave--
Well, you certainly have me intrigued regarding the COS biodynamics fellow...I'll actually be back in the Springs this Thursday and maybe even PPA/M weekend, too...can you give me a little more info/contact? Hit me up at antonkrupicka (at) gmail dot com. Gotta love those winter Cheyenne Canyon mornings...
Tony
Anton, I love to read your blog and comments. Thanks for sharing.
Foot problems are no fun. I've had do deal with a neuroma in my left foot for years. Two things helped me manage it and I believe only one thing actually prevented it from coming back.
Active Release Technique (ART) and Augmented Soft Tissue Mobilization (ASTYM) both worked great for me to manage the pain and continue running. The founder of ART is actually based in Colorado Springs. Dr Michael Leahy. These treatments dealt with the tendons and nerves in the foot and calf. I had big improvements with only two or three treatments but I would have to go in and get “tune-ups” from time to time.
I believe my cure-all happened to be core training. After about 6 weeks of wacky balance exercises that incorporated balance boards, exercise balls, weights and such I noticed I didn’t have any pain in my foot whatsoever. Maybe its all in my head but I’ve become a true believer a good core workout once or twice a week prevents injury.
Good luck.
Higg
Do the international travel gig.
Tony, sorry to hear about the injury. Was talking to John at CRC and he said you were limping around Leadville.
Hey, if you're in town for the PPM, Jonathan, Ted and I were probably going to hang at Jared's (Jonathan's brother) place on Ruxton, put our feet up, drink beer and watch the finishers.
Watch out for the Team CRUD invasion on Leadville.
Take care.
Gordo
Hi Anton!
Good to see you back and blogging! You are a great source of inspiration to me and I've loved reading your posts and living vicariously through your running exploits.
Take the time and heal up well. Good luck with whichever treatment options you choose, it sounds like you've been receiving lots of good advice on what to do. You have a long and fruitful running career ahead of you, I'm sure.
I wish I could spend the summer in Leadville!
what were your mile spilts for your 100 mile pr? what is your marathon pr? did you run in college and high school? what did you run? I'm seventeen and really want to do some ultras in the future and I think i have the potential to be as good as you are. peach fuzzzz
Angeles Crest is closed - or maybe you are already signed up.
Good luck with your recovery. Don't rush it. I have no experience with neuromas.
Hey Anton,
Good to see your post; bad to see the reason for the long void between entries. I felt confident you'd hit the CR at Leadville. Very sorry to learn of your injury. Hopefully the new perspective and goals will suit you and your longevity a bit better. Looking forward to meeting you at a race sometime.
Tim
You probably are overloaded with suggestions for the feet, but here is one more. Try yoga toes, like these...
http://www.yogapro.com/ts/toestretcher.html
I'd like to hear your take on Kyle's Hardrock performance, and how he "blew out his shoes". Was he wearing the 790s?
atwell--
I don't know if this is the most appropriate or relevant venue to post this, but here goes: Kyle's HR performance was the culmination of better acclimation than basically any other top runner who has attempted it (Kyle's been living there since April), uber-consistent training over the past 2 years in the 120-160mpw range (he had a 10 month streak of running leading up to HR where he didn't miss a single day), course knowledge and training, and an attitude and approach to the race that willfully didn't pay much attention to any sort of pre-conceived standards or efforts on the course, i.e. he went into the race just planning on running how he felt and not paying attention to splits. Of course, he had a good idea of what he was capable of after a couple of long (40ish miles) runs on the course, but he wasn't going to get worried if he was, say, an hour ahead of CR pace early on (which he was). If the effort felt easy, why should he worry about blowing up?
As for the shoes: they worked great. The upper and midsole were a bit separated by the end, but nothing that wasn't runnable. We both love the 790s, but the bottom line is that they are minimalist and HR is a gnarly, gnarly, brutal course. It's more gnarly than it looks in the pictures. Plus, the model he was wearing was a special prototype that NB probably didn't have the same quality control requirements on.
Tony
Here's a first-not that we look anything alike (unless you cut your hair), but running shirtless on the Cont Divide Trail today, two hikers stopped me and asked if I was "that guy that always wins the Leadville 100." I should've went with it, but instead corrected them.
Hey dude sorry to hear that your foot hasn't healed yet.
If you end up running tahoe rim or anything else over this way feel free to hit me up
Oh man, that sucks about the feet. I'm pretty bummed about Western States as I was waiting to see you break the course record. Good luck with the recovery.
Prevention - could be switching so many different types of footwear when the mileage is becoming huge...I am only a 60+mile a week bloke but now stick to the same shoe (Adrenaline's off and on road shoes) and they look after my feet...I found when i ran in Adidas (for example) and Brooks - it caused me probs and my mate who has FF's finds that they are ok for short runs (5 miles max) but sticks to his own 'workhorse shoe'- :) It could also be a matter of looking at diet - since I've eaten more nuts and eggs - pure natural protien - i feel fab...Just ideas that you've defo thought of...
Good luck with recoverey - I've got a fiver on you to win WS next year already!!! So keep smiling and stay positive...Look at what ya got and what you've achived thus far...amazing!!!
Thanks for the cool blog -
Get well soon mate...
steve (UK)
Tony-
Get better soon. You're a real inspiration to us all...
Best of luck.
HI!
Just read your blog about your neuroma and thought I'd put in my 2cents. I have neuromas in both of my feet and could not run a step without my othodoctics. Originally they wanted to do cortisone injections or even surgery but I found a good foot doctor who prevented all of that. Hope it helps. I've been in orthodics for about 15 years.
Tony:
Love the blog, and I hope you get healthy soon. Question for you- do you throw any insole into your 790s? I'm just curious, as I do like mine but the insole just doesn't cut it for me. Good luck....Jon
Anton...keep on writing, because you are good at that too. It will also speed your recovery. See you at WS in 09.
There is alot of people telling you to take shots, have surgery, go back to orthotics. Garbage!!! The human body can heal itself with the right rest and rehab. See a good rolfer,or bodyworker and slowly come back. A proper diet that a naturalpath can prescribe will work as well. You are young and have lots of great running ahead of you. You are doing things the right way, times like this you can begin to doubt the gift, but believe me its there. May be the mileage was a little much, but no one believed a human could survive a four minute mile too long ago. Stay the path, time heals all!!
First of all I'm sorry to hear about your injury. You are such an inspiration to so many people. My best wishes for your recovery...I had a neuroma a few years back on my left foot. Nothing helped until I finally gave in and had a surgical procedure where they go in and snip the nerve. Two toes on my left foot are a little numb to the touch, but hey, I'm running and walking pain free so it's worth it! And the recovery was a breeze, a few weeks at most. All the best to you my friend...keep riding the wind.
hey anton;
i am from the netherlands and will be in leadville to assist on the medical crew at hope pass during the 100 mile.
Was hoping that i would see you pass by. but i now found out you are injured.
to bad, hope you run like the wind before you know it.
good luck!!
martine
Hello, I don't speak english... sorry, but my message is positive.
Ici en Suisse tu es attendu pour venir courir avec nous. J'ai beaucoup d'admiration pour ta vision de la course et la valeur de liberté que tu défends est certainement la plus belle.
Congratulations
Stephane Abry
bummer about the injuries. hope to hear that you're back at it soon.
i too was thinking about some time "off" after wasatch and do some long adventure type runs in the desert instead of racing... probably no races until HURT. was just thinking the other day about white rim, rim 2 rim 2 rim, maybe some multi day stuff too. perhaps i'll see you out there later this year.
as a massage therapist, i know the body has perennial projects that can make you feel totally stuck. an interruption in the program sucks, and i was personally disappointed to see leadville go on without you. (i paced a runner, and nearly bumped into the full moon over Hope Pass!) With a huge wave of sympathetic energy, I wish you a fullfilling life during recovery. And hope to bump into you in Leadville!
Anton,
I hope you get better soon. You're a beast. Jeff
Anton,
I am a big fan not just of the runner you are but of the person within. You are an inspiration to me.
I admire the way you are dealing with this injury. This too shall pass and you will be back stronger and wiser than before.
Good luck with getting back on the trails. If you are doing TRT I would love to help in any way I can. You can contact me at rajeevtherunner (at) gmail(dot)com.
Rajeev
My 2 cents. do some road travel .. see a few things.. try some work that helps to level the playing field in your life.. then find a good race.. that means something to you.. and train for it..
hope the body heals.. i do ultras at 51.. and treating the body super well is key.. listen to the body.. it is trying to tell ya something..
you know that!
good luck.. get better.
Hi anton, Acupuncture works really well for neuromas. Kathy D'Onofrio
Were you in Great Falls yesterday? I think I saw you when I was crossing the street.
Anton,
You've been a source of inspiration for my running and I managed to finish leadville this year despite being a surgical resident.
Of course as a doctor I've been thinking about your feet (isn't that nice). I hope you are healing by now, but if not, I would go see an orthopedic surgeon (sports specialist). Injection may help, that may be all you need. If not, MRI may help figure it out, and surgery may make the difference. That's what I'd do with my feet. Surgeons are not all science geeks, we are often athletes who understand. I know the ortho guys at Univ Hosp in Denver if you are ever so inclined.
I think I speak for everyone when I say we miss your blogs. Keep us updated...
Best,
Jeremy Hedges
You're a real inspiration, so take care of yourself. Even running at 90%, you're still one of the greatest.
You helped me get through training for the Ragnar Relay coming up soon in Austin. Our team decided to run with only 4 people instead of the usual 12. That means we have to do 50 miles each. GO TEAM WHITE LINE FEVER!
Some tourists said they saw Jesus running on the trails at the Garden of the Gods over the weekend. Sounds like Tony's back!
Tony,
I hope your foot is feeling better. You blog has served as a source of inspiration and documentation of what most consider beyond comprehension.
Lets us know how your doing and if you need any help.
JAU
Hope ya getting stronger and fitter :)
This is just like the movie Forrest Gump. We’ve been following him for all this time waiting for him to speak. A bad example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFWswQq4ulE
Hopefully Anton will speak soon.
I heard that Anton would be participating the IAU 100k World Cup in Italy on November 8th. At least his name is in the list of participants, other U.S. runners in the list are Howard Nippert, Michael Wardian, Adam Lint, Steven Stowers, Chad Rickflos, Greg Crowther, Oz Pearlman and Patrick Russell. Unfortunately I don't have a link to the list, but the race website is here: http://www.ultramaratonadeglietruschi.it/home.asp
Here's the list for IAU 100k participants: http://www.iau.org.tw/upload/download/1223061155.xls
Thanks for the info, Corner. Intriguing. I hope Anton's back and better than ever!
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